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adopted　these　arts　as　veils　or　disguises　because　they　were　afraid　of



the　odium　which　they　would　incur。　But　that　is　not　my　way；　for　I　do　not



believe　that　they　effected　their　purpose；　which　was　to　deceive　the



government；　who　were　not　blinded　by　them；　and　as　to　the　people；　they



have　no　understanding；　and　only　repeat　what　their　rulers　are　pleased



to　tell　them。　Now　to　run　away；　and　to　be　caught　in　running　away；　is



the　very　height　of　folly；　and　also　greatly　increases　the



exasperation　of　mankind；　for　they　regard　him　who　runs　away　as　a　rogue；



in　addition　to　any　other　objections　which　they　have　to　him；　and



therefore　I　take　an　entirely　opposite　course；　and　acknowledge　myself



to　be　a　Sophist　and　instructor　of　mankind；　such　an　open



acknowledgement　appears　to　me　to　be　a　better　sort　of　caution　than



concealment。　Nor　do　I　neglect　other　precautions；　and　therefore　I　hope；



as　I　may　say；　by　the　favour　of　heaven　that　no　harm　will　come　of　the



acknowledgment　that　I　am　a　Sophist。　And　I　have　been　now　many　years



in　the　profession…for　all　my　years　when　added　up　are　many：　there　is　no



one　here　present　of　whom　I　might　not　be　the　father。　Wherefore　I　should



much　prefer　conversing　with　you；　if　you　want　to　speak　with　me；　in



the　presence　of　the　company。



　　As　I　suspected　that　he　would　like　to　have　a　little　display　and



glorification　in　the　presence　of　Prodicus　and　Hippias；　and　would



gladly　show　us　to　them　in　the　light　of　his　admirers；　I　said：　But　why



should　we　not　summon　Prodicus　and　Hippias　and　their　friends　to　hear



us？



　　Very　good；　he　said。



　　Suppose；　said　Callias；　that　we　hold　a　council　in　which　you　may　sit



and　discuss。…This　was　agreed　upon；　and　great　delight　was　felt　at　the



prospect　of　hearing　wise　men　talk；　we　ourselves　took　the　chairs　and



benches；　and　arranged　them　by　Hippias；　where　the　other　benches　had



been　already　placed。　Meanwhile　Callias　and　Alcibiades　got　Prodicus　out



of　bed　and　brought　in　him　and　his　companions。



　　When　we　were　all　seated；　Protagoras　said：　Now　that　the　company　are



assembled；　Socrates；　tell　me　about　the　youngman　of　whom　you　were



just　now　speaking。



　　I　replied：　I　will　begin　again　at　the　same　point；　Protagoras；　and



tell　you　once　more　the　purport　of　my　visit：　this　is　my　friend



Hippocrates；　who　is　desirous　of　making　your　acquaintance；　he　would



like　to　know　what　will　happen　to　him　if　he　associates　with　you。　I　have



no　more　to　say。



　　Protagoras　answered：　Young　man；　if　you　associate　with　me；　on　the



very　first　day　you　will　return　home　a　better　man　than　you　came；　and



better　on　the　second　day　than　on　the　first；　and　better　every　day



than　you　were　on　the　day　before。



　　When　I　heard　this；　I　said：　Protagoras；　I　do　not　at　all　wonder　at



hearing　you　say　this；　even　at　your　age；　and　with　all　your　wisdom；　if



any　one　were　to　teach　you　what　you　did　not　know　before；　you　would



become　better　no　doubt：　but　please　to　answer　in　a　different　way…I　will



explain　how　by　an　example。　Let　me　suppose　that　Hippocrates；　instead　of



desiring　your　acquaintance；　wished　to　become　acquainted　with　the　young



man　Zeuxippus　of　Heraclea；　who　has　lately　been　in　Athens；　and　he　had



come　to　him　as　he　has　come　to　you；　and　had　heard　him　say；　as　he　has



heard　you　say；　that　every　day　he　would　grow　and　become　better　if　he



associated　with　him：　and　then　suppose　that　he　were　to　ask　him；　〃In



what　shall　I　become　better；　and　in　what　shall　I　grow？〃…Zeuxippus　would



answer；　〃In　painting。〃　And　suppose　that　he　went　to　Orthagoras　the



Theban；　and　heard　him　say　the　same　thing；　and　asked　him；　〃In　what



shall　I　become　better　day　by　day？〃　he　would　reply；　〃In　flute…playing。〃



Now　I　want　you　to　make　the　same　sort　of　answer　to　this　young　man　and



to　me；　who　am　asking　questions　on　his　account。　When　you　say　that　on



the　first　day　on　which　he　associates　with　you　he　will　return　home　a



better　man；　and　on　every　day　will　grow　in　like　manner；…In　what；



Protagoras；　will　he　be　better？　and　about　what？



　　When　Protagoras　heard　me　say　this；　he　replied：　You　ask　questions



fairly；　and　I　like　to　answer　a　question　which　is　fairly　put。　If



Hippocrates　comes　to　me　he　will　not　experience　the　sort　of　drudgery



with　which　other　Sophists　are　in　the　habit　of　insulting　their



pupils；　who；　when　they　have　just　escaped　from　the　arts；　are　taken



and　driven　back　into　them　by　these　teachers；　and　made　to　learn



calculation；　and　astronomy；　and　geometry；　and　music　（he　gave　a　look　at



Hippias　as　he　said　this）；　but　if　he　comes　to　me；　he　will　learn　that



which　he　comes　to　learn。　And　this　is　prudence　in　affairs　private　as



well　as　public；　he　will　learn　to　order　his　own　house　in　the　best



manner；　and　he　will　be　able　to　speak　and　act　for　the　best　in　the



affairs　of　the　state。



　　Do　I　understand　you；　I　said；　and　is　your　meaning　that　you　teach



the　art　of　politics；　and　that　you　promise　to　make　men　good　citizens？



　　That；　Socrates；　is　exactly　the　profession　which　I　make。



　　Then；　I　said；　you　do　indeed　possess　a　noble　art；　if　there　is　no





mistake　about　this；　for　I　will　freely　confess　to　you；　Protagoras；　that



I　have　a　doubt　whether　this　art　is　capable　of　being　taught；　and　yet



I　know　not　how　to　disbelieve　your　assertion。　And　I　ought　to　tell　you



why　I　am　of　opinion　that　this　art　cannot　be　taught　or　communicated



by　man　to　man。　I　say　that　the　Athenians　are　an　understanding　people；



and　indeed　they　are　esteemed　to　be　such　by　the　other　Hellenes。　Now　I



observe　that　when　we　are　met　together　in　the　assembly；　and　the



matter　in　hand　relates　to　building；　the　builders　are　summoned　as



advisers；　when　the　question　is　one　of　shipbuilding；　then　the



ship…wrights；　and　the　like　of　other　arts　which　they　think　capable　of



being　taught　and　learned。　And　if　some　person　offers　to　give　them



advice　who　is　not　supposed　by　them　to　have　any　skill　in　the　art；



even　though　he　be　good…looking；　and　rich；　and　noble；　they　will　not



listen　to　him；　but　laugh　and　hoot　at　him；　until　either　he　is　clamoured



down　and　retires　of　himself；　or　if　he　persist；　he　is　dragged　away　or



put　out　by　the　constables　at　the　command　of　the　prytanes。　This　is



their　way　of　behaving　about　professors　of　the　arts。　But　when　the



question　is　an　affair　of　state；　then　everybody　is　free　to　have　a



say…carpenter；　tinker；　cobbler；　sailor；　passenger；　rich　and　poor；　high



and　low…any　one　who　likes　gets　up；　and　no　one　reproaches　him；　as　in



the　former　case；　with　not　having　learned；　and　having　no　teacher；　and



yet　giving　advice；　evidently　because　they　are　under　the　impression



that　this　sort　of　knowledge　cannot　be　taught。　And　not　only　is　this



true　of　the　state；　but　of　individuals；　the　best　and　wisest　of　our



citizens　are　unable　to　impart　their　political　wisdom　to　others：　as　for



example；　Pericles；　the　father　of　these　young　men；　who　gave　them



excellent　instruction　in　all　that　could　be　learned　from　masters；　in



his　own　department　of　politics　neither　taught　them；　nor　gave　them



teachers；　but　they　were　allowed　to　wander　at　their　own　free　will　in



a　sort　of　hope　that　they　would　light　upon　virtue　of　their　own



accord。　Or　take　another　example：　there　was　Cleinias　the　younger



brother　of　our　friend　Alcibiades；　of　whom　this　very　same　Pericles



was　the　guardian；　and　he　being　in　fact　under　the　apprehension　that



Cleinias　would　be　corrupted　by　Alcibiades；　took　him　away；　and　placed



him　in　the　house　of　Ariphron　to　be　educated；　but　before　six　months　had



elapsed；　Ariphron　sent　him　back；　not　knowing　what　to　do　with　him。



And　I　could　mention　numberless　other　instances　of　persons　who　were



good　themselves；　and　never　yet　made　any　one　else　good；　whether



friend　or　stranger。　Now　I；　Protagoras；　having　these　examples　before



me；　am　inclined　to　think　that　virtue　cannot　be　taught。　But　then　again；



when　I　listen　to　your　words；　I　waver；　and　am　disposed　to　think　that



there　must　be　something　in　what　you　say；　because　I　know　that　you



have　great　experience；　and　learning；　and　invention。　And　I　wish　that



you　would；　if　possible；　show　me　a　little　more　clearly　that　virtue



can　be　taught。　Will　you　be　so　good？



　　That　I　will；　Socrates；　and　gladly。　But　what　would　you　like？　Shall　I；



as　an　elder；　speak　to　you　as　younger　men　in　an　apologue　or　myth；　or



shall　I　argue　out　the　question？



　　To　this　several　of　the　company　answered　that　he　should　choose　for



himself。



　　Well；　then；　he　said；　I　think　that　the　myth　will　be　more　interesting。



　　Once　upon　a　time　there　were　gods　only；　and　no　mortal　creatures。



But　when　the　time　came　that　these　also　should　be　created；　the　gods



fashioned　them　out　of　earth　and　fire　and　various　mixtures　of　both



elements　in　the　interior　of　the　earth；　and　when　they　were　about　to



bring　them　into　the　light　of　day；　they　ordered　Prometheus　and



Epimetheus　to　equip　them；　and　to　distribute　to　them　severally　their



proper　qualities。　Epimetheus　said　to　Prometheus：　〃Let　me　distribute；



and　do　you　inspect。〃　This　was　agreed；　and　Epimetheus　made　the



distribution。　There　were　some　to　whom　he　gave　strength　without



swiftness；　while　he　equipped　the　weaker　with　swiftness；　some　he　armed；



and　others　he　left　unarmed；　and　devised　for　the　latter　some　other



means　of　preservation；　making　some　large；　and　having　their　size　as　a



protection；　and　others　small；　whose　nature　was　to　fly　in　the　air　or



burrow　in　the　ground；　this　was　to　be　their　way　of　escape。　Thus　did



he　compensate　them　with　the　view　of　preventing　any　race　from



becoming　extinct。　And　when　he　had　provided　against　their　destruction



by　one　another；　he　contrived　also　a　means　of　protecting　them　against



the　seasons　of　heaven；　clothing　them　with　close　hair　and　thick　skins



sufficient　to　defend　them　against　the　winter　cold　and　able　to　resist



the　summer　heat；　so　that　they　might　have　a　natural　bed　of　their　own



when　they　wanted　to　rest；　also　he　furnished　them　with　hoofs　and　hair