such State； then I should； if in Congress； vote for their
admission。 But if not so PLEDGED and bound by sacred contract；
then a bill for the admission of more Slave States from Texas
would never receive my vote。
〃To your fourth interrogatory I answer most decidedly in the
affirmative； and for reasons set forth in my reported remarks at
Ottawa last Monday。
〃To your fifth interrogatory I also reply in the affirmative most
cordially； and that I will use my utmost exertions to secure the
nomination and election of a man who will accomplish the objects
of said interrogatories。 I most cordially approve of the
resolutions adopted at the Union meeting held at Princeton on the
27th September ult。
〃Yours； etc。；R。 S。 MOLONY。〃
All I have to say in regard to Dr。 Molony is that he was the
regularly nominated Democratic candidate for Congress in his
district； was elected at that time； at the end of his term was
appointed to a land…office at Danville。 （I never heard anything
of Judge Douglas's instrumentality in this。） He held this office
a considerable time； and when we were at Freeport the other day
there were handbills scattered about notifying the public that
after our debate was over R。 S。 Molony would make a Democratic
speech in favor of Judge Douglas。 That is all I know of my own
personal knowledge。 It is added here to this resolution； and
truly I believe； that among those who participated in the Joliet
Convention； and who supported its nominee； with his platform as
laid down in the resolution of the Convention and in his reply as
above given； we call at random the following names； all of which
are recognized at this day as leading
Democrats：
〃Cook County；E。 B。 Williams； Charles McDonell； Arno Voss；
Thomas Hoyne； Isaac Cook。〃
I reckon we ought to except Cook。
〃F。 C。 Sherman。
〃Will；Joel A。 Matteson； S。 W。 Bowen。
〃Kane；B。 F。 Hall； G。 W。 Renwick； A。 M。 Herrington； Elijah
Wilcox。
〃McHenry；W。 M。 Jackson； Enos W。 Smith； Neil Donnelly。
La Salle；John Hise； William Reddick。〃
William Reddick！ another one of Judge Douglas's friends that
stood on the stand with him at Ottawa； at the time the Judge says
my knees trembled so that I had to be carried away。 The names
are all here：
〃Du Page；Nathan Allen。
〃De Kalb；Z。 B。 Mayo。〃
Here is another set of resolutions which I think are apposite to
the matter in hand。
On the 28th of February of the same year a Democratic District
Convention was held at Naperville to nominate a candidate for
Circuit Judge。 Among the delegates were Bowen and Kelly of Will；
Captain Naper； H。 H。 Cody； Nathan Allen； of Du Page； W。 M。
Jackson； J。 M。 Strode； P。 W。 Platt； and Enos W。 Smith of McHenry；
J。 Horssnan and others of Winnebago。 Colonel Strode presided
over the Convention。 The following resolutions were unanimously
adopted；the first on motion of P。 W。 Platt； the second on
motion of William M。 Jackson：
〃Resolved； That this Convention is in favor of the Wilmot
Proviso； both in Principle and Practice； and that we know of no
good reason why any person should oppose the largest latitude in
Free Soil； Free Territory and Free speech。
〃Resolved； That in the opinion of this Convention； the time has
arrived when all men should be free； whites as well as others。〃
＇Judge DOUGLAS： What is the date of those resolutions？＇
I understand it was in 1850； but I do not know it。 I do not
state a thing and say I know it； when I do not。 But I have the
highest belief that this is so。 I know of no way to arrive at
the conclusion that there is an error in it。 I mean to put a
case no stronger than the truth will allow。 But what I was going
to comment upon is an extract from a newspaper in De Kalb County；
and it strikes me as being rather singular； I confess； under the
circumstances。 There is a Judge Mayo in that county； who is a
candidate for the Legislature； for the purpose； if he secures his
election； of helping to re…elect Judge Douglas。 He is the editor
of a newspaper ＇De Kalb County Sentinel＇； and in that paper I
find the extract I am going to read。 It is part of an editorial
article in which he was electioneering as fiercely as he could
for Judge Douglas and against me。 It was a curious thing； I
think； to be in such a paper。 I will agree to that； and the
Judge may make the most of it：
〃Our education has been such that we have been rather in favor of
the equality of the blacks； that is； that they should enjoy all
the privileges of the whites where they reside。 We are aware
that this is not a very popular doctrine。 We have had many a
confab with some who are now strong 'Republicans' we taking the
broad ground of equality； and they the opposite ground。
〃We were brought up in a State where blacks were voters； and we
do not know of any inconvenience resulting from it； though
perhaps it would not work as well where the blacks are more
numerous。 We have no doubt of the right of the whites to guard
against such an evil； if it is one。 Our opinion is that it would
be best for all concerned to have the colored population in a
State by themselves ＇in this I agree with him＇； but if within the
jurisdiction of the United States； we say by all means they
should have the right to have their Senators and Representatives
in Congress； and to vote for President。 With us 'worth makes the
man； and want of it the fellow。' We have seen many a 'nigger'
that we thought more of than some white men。〃
That is one of Judge Douglas's friends。 Now； I do not want to
leave myself in an attitude where I can be misrepresented； so I
will say I do not think the Judge is responsible for this
article； but he is quite as responsible for it as I would be if
one of my friends had said it。 I think that is fair enough。
I have here also a set of resolutions passed by a Democratic
State Convention in Judge Douglas's own good State of Vermont；
that I think ought to be good for him too：
〃Resolved； That liberty is a right inherent and inalienable in
man； and that herein all men are equal。
〃Resolved； That we claim no authority in the Federal Government
to abolish slavery in the several States； but we do claim for it
Constitutional power perpetually to prohibit the introduction of
slavery into territory now free； and abolish it wherever； under
the jurisdiction of Congress； it exists。
〃Resolved； That this power ought immediately to be exercised in
prohibiting the introduction and existence of slavery in New
Mexico and California； in abolishing slavery and the slave…trade
in the District of Columbia； on the high seas； and wherever else；
under the Constitution； it can be reached。
〃Resolved； That no more Slave States should be admitted into the
Federal Union。
〃Resolved； That the Government ought to return to its ancient
policy； not to extend； nationalize； or encourage； but to limit；
localize； and discourage slavery。〃
At Freeport I answered several interrogatories that had been
propounded to me by Judge Douglas at the Ottawa meeting。 The
Judge has not yet seen fit to find any fault with the position
that I took in regard to those seven interrogatories； which were
certainly broad enough； in all conscience； to cover the entire
ground。 In my answers； which have been printed； and all have had
the opportunity of seeing； I take the ground that those who elect
me must expect that I will do nothing which will not be in
accordance with those answers。 I have some right to assert that
Judge Douglas has no fault to find with them。 But he chooses to
still try to thrust me upon different ground； without paying any
attention to my answers； the obtaining of which from me cost him
so much trouble and concern。 At the same time I propounded four
interrogatories to him； claiming it as a right that he should
answer as many interrogatories for me as I did for him； and I
would reserve myself for a future instalment when I got them
ready。 The Judge； in answering me upon that occasion； put in
what I suppose he intends as answers to all four of my
interrogatories。 The first one of these interrogatories I have
before me； and it is in these words：
〃Question 1。If the people of Kansas shall； by means entirely
unobjectionable in all other respects； adopt a State
constitution； and ask admission into the Union under it； before
they have the requisite number of inhabitants according to the
English bill； 〃…some ninety…three thousand；…〃 will you vote to
admit them？〃
As I read the Judge's answer in the newspaper； and as I remember
it as pronounced at the time； he does not give any answer which
is equivalent to yes or no；I will or I won't。 He answers at
very considerable length； rather quarreling with me for asking
the question； and insisting that Judge Trumbull had done
something that I ought to say something about； and finally
getting out such statements as induce me to infer that he means
to be understood he will； in that supposed case； vote for the
admission of Kansas。 I only bring this forward now for the
purpose of saying that if he chooses to put a different
construction upon his answer； he may do it。 But if he does not；
I shall from this time forward assume that he will vote for the
admission of Kansas in disregard of the English bill。 He has the
right to remove any misunderstanding I may have。 I only mention
it now； that I may hereafter assume this to be the true
construction of his answer； if he does not now choose to correct
me。
The second interrogatory that I propounded to him was this：
〃Question 2。Can the people of a United States Territory； in any
lawful way； against the wish of any citizen of the United States；
exclude slavery from its limits prior to the formation of a State
Constitution？〃
To this Judge Douglas answered that they can lawfully exclude
slavery from the Territ